Church Planting in Boise Anyone?
This is my serious blog. Click the title for my frivolous post on laws and natural selection or click here for The Blog I Never Use in its entirety.
WARNING: The following was written while I was angry. The views expressed are not likely to remain so prominent after the anger has died down.
Hello there, I just received some disturbing news, the elders of church with whom I worship here in Boise . . . Let me restate that, the church with whom I worship here in Boise with the best preacher in the state, who I would rank in the upper level for all-around skill, the preacher who has never in my presence said anything without doing his homework, the elders of which my family and I (who have been here for two years longer than I) have only met two (of four), just sent us a letter (below) saying that they are firing the minister.
They say, "There is little doubt after our meetings with the ministers that they do not respect the judgment, experience, spiritual maturity, and wisdom of the elders." This is obviously the real problem here: their pride is hurt, their egos wounded. I have news Gentlemen: 1. Respect is earned, not given because of titles, that is why Paul was so concerned with the qualities of elders, 2. Your judgment, experience, spiritual maturity and wisdom are not THE WORD OF GOD, that is what we come here to experience and you are asking us to compromise it, 3. The wrong judgments, based upon the experience, spiritual maturity and wisdom of elders is what lead to the spiritual hierarchies you despise, especially the Pope's authority 4. Chances are that you never received any kind of training on how to preach with integrity, so are not qualified to judge that aspect of the preacher's work, and that aspect of Mike's preaching is why he will not be your puppet, because of his loyalty to GOD, has anyone here ever read the Prophets?. 5. Has anyone read the words of Jesus, "the leaders of the Gentiles bully others, it should not be that way with you . . . (with you) the greatest should be the least."
I am sorry to be so bold and rude, I just can't stand a bully, much less a bully who claims God's authority to authorize his actions. And don't try to tell me that the reference to the ministers' attitude coupled with the firing is not a threat directed at Howard Jones (the campus minister), I heard the way he was ignored in your meeting, or that this is not about power outside God's Word, outside Jesus' authority.
I am at a quandary. I believe that the eldership of a church is intended to be involved in the spiritual life of the church, I do not believe that they are supposed to practice worldly forms of domination. In their letter they make clear that they are firing Mike Sanders because their collective pride is hurt by his disagreement over the one fundamental goal of pulpit ministry: Mike believes, as I do, that ministry is living the life of Jesus in the community and proclaiming the word of God, in short, ministry is filling the role of prophet by preaching God's word; the eldership believes that ministry is about entertainment or numbers.
Now let me ask those of you who have asked my advice on what church to attend, about how to choose? That's right: go to the church which has an eldership who shows spiritual maturity and a focus on caring for the flock and, if that is unavailable, choose a church that has strong non-elder leadership, where you can do some good and, failing that look for a church plant or plant a church yourself. I should have followed my advice when I got here, but I didn't want to get so involved that I couldn't leave when my thesis is complete. I haven't officially joined the church here in part because I don't quite trust the eldership, and in part because I see my time here as short.
So, if I were following my own advice, I would have already started a church plant, so I guess I should start a church plant now, but I hate the idea of becoming a church-hopper. First John is very clear that leaving a church because you disagree with what is taught can be against the spirit of Christ. But what about leaving to try to improve the plight of Christianity in your community? Of course there is another factor here: I have been saying for some time that this area NEEDS several church plants desperately. Also, Stan Granberg told us to always see the opportunity for the multiplication of God's people in times others see as division.
Anyone out there looking for a place to plant a church? There is only one established mainstream Church of Christ in this city and a few very small off-shoots (United CofC, Conservative CofC etc.). Boise's population is currently 208,200 and growing, the network of Christian churches of all denominations (131 churches, protestant and catholic) is vastly underequipped to handle the 38,517 of those whom national averages place in churches already since many facilities were constructed for under 100.
Most of the growth comes from California, but some is from the rural areas. Those who have lived in the state for the longest tend to be uneducated and resistant to education. Those who are moving in are mostly college graduates who, after starting families, are looking for a safe place to raise families. Eldorado has not attracted many of these and the other protestant churches are mostly in the same situation. The point is, people here want to build communities, that is why they moved their families here, whether they knew it or not.
Make a comment
The Following is the Letter
WARNING: The following was written while I was angry. The views expressed are not likely to remain so prominent after the anger has died down.
Hello there, I just received some disturbing news, the elders of church with whom I worship here in Boise . . . Let me restate that, the church with whom I worship here in Boise with the best preacher in the state, who I would rank in the upper level for all-around skill, the preacher who has never in my presence said anything without doing his homework, the elders of which my family and I (who have been here for two years longer than I) have only met two (of four), just sent us a letter (below) saying that they are firing the minister.
They say, "There is little doubt after our meetings with the ministers that they do not respect the judgment, experience, spiritual maturity, and wisdom of the elders." This is obviously the real problem here: their pride is hurt, their egos wounded. I have news Gentlemen: 1. Respect is earned, not given because of titles, that is why Paul was so concerned with the qualities of elders, 2. Your judgment, experience, spiritual maturity and wisdom are not THE WORD OF GOD, that is what we come here to experience and you are asking us to compromise it, 3. The wrong judgments, based upon the experience, spiritual maturity and wisdom of elders is what lead to the spiritual hierarchies you despise, especially the Pope's authority 4. Chances are that you never received any kind of training on how to preach with integrity, so are not qualified to judge that aspect of the preacher's work, and that aspect of Mike's preaching is why he will not be your puppet, because of his loyalty to GOD, has anyone here ever read the Prophets?. 5. Has anyone read the words of Jesus, "the leaders of the Gentiles bully others, it should not be that way with you . . . (with you) the greatest should be the least."
I am sorry to be so bold and rude, I just can't stand a bully, much less a bully who claims God's authority to authorize his actions. And don't try to tell me that the reference to the ministers' attitude coupled with the firing is not a threat directed at Howard Jones (the campus minister), I heard the way he was ignored in your meeting, or that this is not about power outside God's Word, outside Jesus' authority.
I am at a quandary. I believe that the eldership of a church is intended to be involved in the spiritual life of the church, I do not believe that they are supposed to practice worldly forms of domination. In their letter they make clear that they are firing Mike Sanders because their collective pride is hurt by his disagreement over the one fundamental goal of pulpit ministry: Mike believes, as I do, that ministry is living the life of Jesus in the community and proclaiming the word of God, in short, ministry is filling the role of prophet by preaching God's word; the eldership believes that ministry is about entertainment or numbers.
Now let me ask those of you who have asked my advice on what church to attend, about how to choose? That's right: go to the church which has an eldership who shows spiritual maturity and a focus on caring for the flock and, if that is unavailable, choose a church that has strong non-elder leadership, where you can do some good and, failing that look for a church plant or plant a church yourself. I should have followed my advice when I got here, but I didn't want to get so involved that I couldn't leave when my thesis is complete. I haven't officially joined the church here in part because I don't quite trust the eldership, and in part because I see my time here as short.
So, if I were following my own advice, I would have already started a church plant, so I guess I should start a church plant now, but I hate the idea of becoming a church-hopper. First John is very clear that leaving a church because you disagree with what is taught can be against the spirit of Christ. But what about leaving to try to improve the plight of Christianity in your community? Of course there is another factor here: I have been saying for some time that this area NEEDS several church plants desperately. Also, Stan Granberg told us to always see the opportunity for the multiplication of God's people in times others see as division.
Anyone out there looking for a place to plant a church? There is only one established mainstream Church of Christ in this city and a few very small off-shoots (United CofC, Conservative CofC etc.). Boise's population is currently 208,200 and growing, the network of Christian churches of all denominations (131 churches, protestant and catholic) is vastly underequipped to handle the 38,517 of those whom national averages place in churches already since many facilities were constructed for under 100.
Most of the growth comes from California, but some is from the rural areas. Those who have lived in the state for the longest tend to be uneducated and resistant to education. Those who are moving in are mostly college graduates who, after starting families, are looking for a safe place to raise families. Eldorado has not attracted many of these and the other protestant churches are mostly in the same situation. The point is, people here want to build communities, that is why they moved their families here, whether they knew it or not.
Make a comment
The Following is the Letter
Boise Church of Christ
2000 Eldorado Street
Boise, ID 83704-7498
April 15,2006
Dear church family
We are the body of Christ bought and paid for with the blood of Jesus. We are the sheep of His flock and each one brings to this body a unique and valuable contribution. Each person makes the family of God richer by their unique gifts and personalities. God desires that every believer be a functioninginember of a local church-a local "body" of Christ where members mutually care for one another, minister to each other, and build one another up in love (Eph. 4: 15-16). As your elders, we strongly believe that all members at all stages of development in this body are valuable children of God.
We feel keenly the weight of responsibility that you and our Lord have laid upon us as spiritual shepherds for this congregation, charged with the obligation to look after and watch over those in our care. We are called to be elders of insight, wisdom, compassion, and love-depending not on our own intelligence, but His Word and His Holy Spirit (Acts 20: 17-25 and I Peter 5: 1-11). We ask for your forgiveness for those times when we have not lived up to this high calling.
As your shepherds, we want to share with you something that is weighing heavily on our hearts. During the past several months we have spent much time in prayer for this congregation and many hours analyzing the current state of health of our church family. We have met with the ministers and deacons about what we see. It has become increasingly apparent to us that we must make some changes.
Each year we see families quietly depart our fellowship. Some leave because of jobs, others because of school or marriage, and some have gone home to be with the Lord. Yet there are a significant number that have just quietly left this body. Each time someone leaves us we experience pain, loss of friendship, loss of dignity, and most of all an emptiness that simply never goes away. With this letter are enclosures which detail attendance trends here for the past thirty-five years and an analysis of those who have left this congregation in the past fifteen years.
During the past five or six years the elders have made a concerted effort to meet with the families that are quietly disappearing. We have made an honest effort to understand why so many are walking away (including former elders, deacons, and class teachers) and hopefully to persuade at least some of them to remain with us. Of those who have been willing to talk with us, the majority have expressed similar reasons for leaving our fellowship. In almost all cases they cite their inability to connect with or be engaged by the Sunday morning service. Many feel hurt and, to some extent, guilty because they believe they have made a concerted effort to understand the message, but more often than not they go away feeling inadequate and deficient because try as they may they don't get the point. Some have said they feel more depressed when they leave our services than they did before they came. Some have told us they are hungering for a worship experience that will equip them with the tools needed to meet the challenges of a hostile world in the coming week. Many expressed how difficult it has been to leave our body because there are so many that they love and care about in our congregation. We have heard explanations of how their decision to leave was driven by the need to find a church home where their children can better understand the lessons on Sunday morning. We have seen expressions of real frustration in many of these faces because of the difficulty they are having finding a new church family, particularly one that is Bible centered and shares the core beliefs that we hold in common.
As shepherds, we have spent many hours praying and trying to find a solution that will stop the continuing erosion. We believe it is our responsibility to recognize negative trends and work together as God's family to correct what we see as a disturbing course. We have tried to discuss this situation with our ministers hoping to find a solution, but we find ourselves polarized on the issues. During the past three months it has become obvious that ministers and elders do not share the same view of the situation or what needs to be done. The ministers have expressed their disagreement with the elders, insisting that we are focusing on the wrong things. We have been accused of being on a witch-hunt and caving in to a consumerist church mindset. Our minister's opinion is that we should not expect this congregation to grow numerically, that significant changes do not need to be made, that we should just continue to "be the best that we can be" within the box of our identity.
We have been told that we are solely focusing on the numbers and that we need to stop worrying about those who are leaving and concern ourselves with those that are solidly in the fold. But how can we ignore those who feel they must leave because they just can't understand the message or because they aren't smart enough to get it? Those numbers represent people who are important to us. The early church came from all walks of life, all types of backgrounds, and all levels of maturity As shepherds, we are responsible for the feeding of all of our flock, both the academically inclined and those who are more visual or tactile in how they learn, those from a wide variety of Christian backgrounds and those with no background at all.
"For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children, encouraging, comforting, and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory." (I Thess. 2: 11-12) As elders, our vision is to engage the flock through the invasion of the imagination with the good news of Jesus. We cannot leave people behind because they have not developed the level of maturity where they do not need encouragement or reassurance. We must not abandon those who need the joyous promises of grace and salvation repeated over and over again. When you fight the grim battle of faith on the employment or academic battlefield all during the week, you need to be restored to battle readiness on Sunday so that you can return victoriously to daily life on Monday (see Hebrews 10:23-25).
This is not a witch-hunt where our pulpit minister is being blamed for all that has happened. We simply believe that our congregation must have a change in the pulpit for the good of this church family. The extent to which we can expect Mike to change his style and methodology is limited. Mike has told us that he is deeply committed to his current preaching style. He has explained to us that he believes his responsibility is to the text, not to the listener. His approach is to enter into dialogue with the text and let those in the audience simply listen in. Instead of trying to make things simpler or easier to understand, he believes the preacher's task is to make them harder to understand. As the basis for this approach he referred to Ezekiel, chapters two and three. We cannot ask Mike to compromise his convictions about his style of preaching.
Weare not blaming others for our current situation. We bear much of the blame and beg your forgiveness for not dealing with these issues earlier. Former elders, loved by this family, have told us changes should have been made long ago. We are convinced that a change is needed in how the good news of Jesus is presented in order to more effectively engage everyone in attendance on Sunday mornings. We believe we must find a way to preserve and hold on to our members while encouraging and building one another up.
And our concerns are not limited to those who have left us. There are many of you who have been disturbed by signs of decline that you have noticed and have asked us what we are doing to address the situation. We have also been made aware of others within our congregation that are considering going elsewhere for the same reasons as those who have already left-they are simply having a difficult time understanding and getting a concrete message out of our Sunday morning lessons and are not being built up and encouraged in our assembly.
There is little doubt after our meetings with the ministers that they do not respect the judgment, experience, spiritual maturity, and wisdom of the elders.
Our ministers have done and are doing many fine, good things. There are great bonds of friendship that have been built up over the years. But, we are obviously at an impasse and in a no-win situation. If we make a change in the pulpit minister some have told us it will cause division. If we do nothing and continue in the current direction (a direction that has been going on for twenty years) we will continue to experience division through attrition. As shepherds, we are under divine obligation to lead. Weare asking for your support and commitment. We serve at your request.
We believe that the right thing to do is to make a change in the pulpit ministry. The elders are unanimously recommending that we seek a new pulpit minister for the well-being of this congregation.
We plan to meet with each Care Group as soon as possible (in some cases with two or three groups together) to discuss, listen, answer questions, and pray. For those not in Care Groups we will be glad to schedule a time to talk with families or individuals. You will be given an opportunity to express your support or lack of support after we have talked with you. We covet your prayers.
In His grace and mercy,
Your shepherds,
(they signed it here)
3 Comments:
Today is the first time I've read this letter, but of course I've heard about it for some time. I agree with you about Mike's quality of preaching the Word. I love to visit and be fed meat rather than the dairy variety of the Word. It was such a disappointment to visit when their "healing speaker" was preaching. He sited a couple of scriptures, but I don't remember even ONE TIME that he put emphasis on what the scripture says. I left that service very sad and very hungry. It was a very bad day all around for me.
Something I find ironic is that at one time I was a very close friend of one of Boise's former elders, one of the ones who left for a different denomination. The explanation by that couple was that the congregation did not want to study enough to get into the meat of the Word. (I didn't see that reason for leaving in the elders' letter.) They wanted to get others in the congregation interested in having some in-depth Bible Studies, but they didn't get much of a response. They complained that not only the Sunday and Wednesday classes, but the preaching as well, was short on protein. (After listening, several times, to the same preacher they were complaining about, I find it too sad to be amusing that they didn't recognize the feast they had before them. Guess I have to chalk it up to, shall we say, different levels of understanding? Irony is everywhere you look, isn't it.
What seems wrong to me is that the elders are doing exactly as you say in your blog; they want milky entertainment to sustain the congregation from week to week rather than going to the heart of the problem.
Why are we ignoring the Bible? We are instructed WORK and STUDY, and elders are supposed to oversee the growth of our congregations in FAITH, in MATURITY, in GODLINESS. Elders are instructed to be our shepherds, lovingly leading us deeper and deeper into the Word, and thereby helping each member of the congregation to become more mature in his spirituality.
That is the way the Body of Christ is supposed to grow. If that were happening, we would be converting people right and left. People would see how we lived, who we were, and they would want what we have.
Numbers are nice, but unfortunately, at this stage in our society, we have been sadly misled to believe that numbers can come instantly (like coffee, television, and the internet)If only we will present something attractive that will keep the people entertained.
When you were a little boy we were a part of a congregation that did very well at personal evangelism and baptising new converts. But it was dismal at teaching those converts how to study and grow in faith. They were content to convert them and then TELL them what to believe. From the way I read it, that offers little chance to put down healthy and thriving roots. That congregation lost members as fast or faster than they could dunk them, if you know what I mean.
Why do elders everywhere that I know of bypass their responsibility to TEACH their flocks how to study? We are supposed to be HUNGRY for the Word of God, not ENTERTAINED by it.
And the elders are not recognizing that.
I guess I wasn't done, after all.
Throughout my half-century of living, give or take, I've been aquainted with all of the congregations in the valley there. That is where I learned to love Jesus and seek Him. I am old enough to have been in Bible classes taught by wonderful older women like Edith Skelton and June Knight, women who called on us to do homework for church, and to take tests over what we had learned. If we did not do as well as they thought we should do, they would tell their concerns to our parents and encourage them to show us the necessity and the joy of studying the Bible. Can you IMAGINE what would happen with that kind of personal concern TODAY!? Parents would take it as an accusation they're not good parents. Instead of helping the child, they would say awful things about the teacher, then tell the child he didn't have to attend class anymore. (It makes a good excuse for them to sleep in a little later on Sunday morning.)
It breaks my heart to see the church in the Boise Valley in the same condition, or worse in some cases, that it was in when I was in my teens. There have been exceptions, but when it comes to disagreements, nothing seems to have been learned from history. The same mistakes are made over and over again. And that is destined to continue as long as blame is placed on the ministers and the ministers are fired. Elders are not called to insure that the members stay there because the preacher is a great entertainer. They're called to watch over the sheep. Christians stay with the church when they're committed to Christ. Without being fed from Christ's Word, commitment simply starves to death.
One of the saddest things I see is that the people I love so much have adopted an attitude that when God says He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow it means we must hold tightly to the same traditional interpretations of the scripture that we had yesterday, and the traditional modes of worship as well. This attitude tells us that the Holy Spirit has finished his job, and we already know all we need to know. (A certain graduate of a well-known preachers' school LITTERALY TOLD me this very thing, as well as the fact that because he got straight As in said school, he already knew everything he would ever have to know about the Bible.)
The elders there are going to have to explain why they have encouraged this attitude, that we knew all we needed to know in 1948, so there's really no reason to study the Bible in depth. It has all been studied before, and we already know what each and every scripture means; in other words, we've already been given the RULES, we just need to hold fast to them. (And we don't dare fellowship with anyone who disagrees; if someone's wrong, it's our duty to set him straight. If he doesn't change, he's a heretic.) When it comes to studying, all we really need to do is answer the questions in the Bible class workbook on Saturday night, and if ever we're not sure about something in the Bible, check it out in a commentary sanctioned by our group.
As long as I remember, to study for new insight, and to dare to share it from the pulpit, is to invite the label "Heretic" to accompany your reputation forever in the Boise Valley. No wonder it has become stagnant. Those in the furtherest backwaters point and scream and condemn their brothers instead of studying to see if the new idea may be sound.
If we haven't learned more about how to worship, love, and grow, since 1948, look how we have wasted those precious years. Think how much closer we would be to Christ now. We could be worshipping Him in purer ways, and maybe we would have learned how to feed that FIRE within us that causes us to hunger for the Word. As it is that fire is not being fed by our leaders, showing us how to study more and more, and how to love Jesus, and especially how to love and forgive one another. It flickers and soon dies for lack of fuel. The cinder stays warm only by being part of the coals, beliving what the others say rather than plugging into the Source. I know the analogy could be better. But we end up fighting among ourselves so much, and Satan triumphs again and again.
I cry for our lack of love, that we would point fingers at our brothers in Christ who dare hire a preacher who studies and shares new insights that might differ from our traditions. It's the way I grew up. Boise and Ontario were just LIBERAL! You could be friends with the people there, but be very careful not to let them sway you.
Yet these--no--WE are the ones Christ died for. Here I am pointing at the faults in the Boise Valley when I have no room to point. I commit the same sins. I don't love enough to risk trying be part of a solution. I love those people, and I don't want them to label me as a liberal. That label gets glued because the smallest things, and it destroys fellowship. How can I risk that? I know that so many of them HAVE broken free. But where are the leaders?
Jesus loves us so much. It should be easier than this, but with Satan's distractions we lose our focus.
And when we start to wake up, we blame it on the preacher.
Even for someone like me, whose future may depend on popular opinion, it occasionally becomes necessary to stand up for what is right, especially when the people shouting the loudest call it wrong. But we are in good company and, if the people who want to destroy us for standing for what is right ruin our hopes for the future, God will open other doors. I am committed to truth, I owe it to God to stand up for it.
I got a reminder of this today when I looked at the ways that people come to Blogum Nemo Legit. One of the people came here from a search for, "Curt Niccum false teacher." Curt has devoted his life to the truth and to bringing the truth to people who hate the truth, but are, on some level, Christians. One of the most exciting things I've heard about OC in recent years is that they are not giving in to the C of C tradition Zealots, but are standing up for Truth and Reason, biblically, those are titles for Christ.
May Wisdom and light find Christians no matter how hard they fight against them. Ephesians talks about the spiritual forces of evil; they are in the heavenley realms. That's right, Satan has little helpers who oppose the light. They are in our congregations, torturing those poor, violent, angry, hateful, vindictive, lonely, fearful souls until they lash out on those of us who are trying to offer them the truth. We refuse to shove the truth into their mouths and hold their noses until they swallow, like dilusional patients, but that is exactly what many of us have been forced to do by them.
Just to clarify, most of the comments above are about my experiences in small-town Texas and Oklahoma, not Boise. This particular case is not of the same type, but it may turn that way if the elders continue to let their pride guide them.
And are they Christians? Yes. Jesus says that the first shall be last, and if the people who want to dominate the church in an ungodly manner, they make themselves "great," which may put them in the category of least, but least doesn't mean outside grace. To turn a quote on its head: better to serve in heaven than to rule in Hell.
Post a Comment
Subscribe to Post Comments [Atom]
<< Home